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		<title>Likelihood Of Electric Cars In NASCAR Increasing</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael J Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the development and refinement of electric and hybrid racing technology, the likelihood of electric cars competing in NASCAR is increasing, even if ever so slightly.  ]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://lead-lap.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/acpropulsion1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6126" title="acpropulsion1" src="http://lead-lap.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/acpropulsion1.jpg" alt="" width="350" height="223" /></a>AC Propulsion, an electric drive-train designer and manufacturer, <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/06/21/electric-race-car-seeks-new-pikes-peak-record/?mod=WSJBlog&amp;mod=WSJ_autoIndustry_Driversseat">announced</a> that one of its drive-trains will again power the current electric-vehicle holder in this year&#8217;s Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. Last year, an electric racer, which was powered by an ACP system, won the competition&#8217;s Exhibition Class and set a new electric vehicle record.</p>
<p>This year, ACP has improved the cooling system of its drive system, which the company predicts will help the car climb the hill in the 12-minute range. Last year&#8217;s time was 13 minutes and 17.575 seconds.</p>
<p>The vehicle is a rear-wheel drive, open-wheel car with lithium-ion batteries from Sanyo Electric Co. It will use Yokohama BluEarth tires, which are designed to conserve fuel. It will be driven by Ikuo Hanawa, who also drove the car that won the Exhibition Class last year.</p>
<p>This news, coupled with the news of an London-based, electric-vehicle racing series called <a href="http://www.evcup.com/">EV Cup</a> that is <a href="http://www.plugincars.com/think-city-will-serve-racing-car-new-electric-racing-series-106684.html">launching this year</a>, makes the possibility of an electric Sprint Cup car more realistic than it once was.</p>
<p>Two years ago, I wrote an <a href="http://lead-lap.com/2009/04/15/nascar-to-electric-cars-not-that-ridiculous/">article</a> about this very idea. I still maintain that a move to electric cars is not that ridiculous. With that said, we&#8217;re decades away from that I think. But with the development and refinement of hybrid and electric race car technology, the likelihood continues to increase, even if ever so slightly.</p>
<p>The EV Cup will run two races this season, one at Mazda Laguna Seca in November and one at Auto Club Speedway in December.  A full season is set to run in 2012, though tracks have not yet been publicized.</p>
<p>Still, a move to electric cars would not be well received by the current crop of NASCAR fans. For example, few things match the sound of a pushrod, V8 circling the track. Sure it&#8217;s loud, but that&#8217;s the point. Electric vehicles cannot match that sound.</p>
<p>Last year, Mike Monticello of <a href="http://blog.roadandtrack.com/tags/ikuo-hanawa/">Road &amp; Track</a> called the ACP car his &#8220;least favorite&#8221; car at Pikes Peak. He wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I know, I know, I’m supposed to be embracing all this &#8216;green&#8217; technology, but the car I liked the least at the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb was the electric EV Sports Concept HER-02 buggy piloted by Ikuo Hanawa. Nothing against Hanawa, but if you need to have chimes ringing on your car, as Hanawa did, so that onlookers know to skedaddle off the road as you drive up the hill, then there’s something wrong with your race car. &#8230; A proper racing car should be loud, like the Super Stock class cars of Layne Schranz (a full-on Chevy Monte Carlo NASCAR stocker) and Steve Goeglein (Chevy Camaro), the bellowing V8s of which raised the hairs on the back of your neck whenever they thundered by.</p></blockquote>
<p>That will make a switch to electric cars in NASCAR virtually impossible any time soon because, simply put, the fans won&#8217;t like it and they are what drives the sport, monetarily.</p>
<p>For comparison purposes, the motor in this year&#8217;s car, the AC-180, will be similar to ACP&#8217;s AC-150 motor, which is used in BMW&#8217;s Mini E. The AC-180 produces 268 HP at 6,000 &#8211; 7,000 RPM and 258 ft/lb of torque from zero to 5,000 RPM. A Sprint Cup pushrod V8 produces 850 HP at 9,000 RPM and 550 ft/lb of torque at 7,500 RPM.</p>
<p>Electric technology has a long way to go to produce that kind of power, which means it&#8217;s a long way off.</p>
<p>What do you think? Would you be opposed to electric cars in NASCAR?</p>
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		<title>Most Criticism Of Electric Cars Would Not Apply In NASCAR</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael J Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to my recent posting about NASCAR switching to electric cars, a blogger calling himself Middle Man, replied that he was skeptical. In his blog, he listed some well publcized downsides to electric cars. And while these are very valid concerns, and criticisms, I would argue that some of them do not apply to [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to my recent posting about <a href="http://lead-lap.mikejsmith.net/2009/04/15/nascar-to-electric-cars-not-that-ridiculous/">NASCAR switching to electric cars</a>, a blogger calling himself Middle Man, replied that he was skeptical.</p>
<p>In his <a href="http://caughtinthemiddleman.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/739/">blog</a>, he listed some well publcized downsides to electric cars. And while these are very valid concerns, and criticisms, I would argue that some of them do not apply to NASCAR.</p>
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<li><strong>Charging </strong></li>
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<p>The first criticism he lists is that electric cars take a while to charge. This is true for electric cars meant for public consumption. But, for Sprint cup cars, this wouldn&#8217;t apply. I suspect that if a switch happened, teams would replace old batteries with new ones on pit stops. So, there wouldn&#8217;t be any charging going on during the race.</p>
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<li><strong>Range</strong></li>
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<p>His second concern is range. Lithim-ion batteries are said to have a range of 250-300 miles per charge, depending on a lot of factors. In Cup competition, the batteries would only need to have a range of about 50-60 laps, depending on the track. In essence, they don&#8217;t need a very long range because teams would have to make pit stops, just like they do now using fuel.</p>
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<li><strong>Speed</strong></li>
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<p>While electric cars are not known for their speed, <a href="http://www.teslamotors.com/performance/acceleration_and_torque.php">Tesla Motors&#8217; Roadstar</a> can go from 0-60 mph in 4 seconds. It also bosts a electronically limited speed of 125 mph. I&#8217;m sure Cup team engineers could find a way to get comparable power out of an electric car as they do out of today&#8217;s pushrod, V8 car.</p>
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<li><strong>Safety</strong></li>
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<p>Middle man points out that the cars are slower than fuel-burning vehicles, making them a road hazard. He also notes their limited crash protection. By only having electric cars on the track, you get more-even speeds. And, NASCAR&#8217;s current roll cage and seats, should protect the driver. The only thing that would need to be addressed is the possiblity of explosions if the batteries rupture.</p>
<p>All in all, I think that we&#8217;re a long ways away from electric cars in NASCAR. There need to be several advancements in the technology &#8212; mostly advancements with the batteries.</p>
<p>There also need to be advancements with safety technology, including a nearly indestructible battery compartment that would prevent the batteries from rupturing and exploding.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying that electric cars are the future of NASCAR, but I do believe that someday decades from now, it could become a consideration.</p>
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